Commander_Jay wrote:J Rzasa wrote:But you can't just to go OtW on a Wednesday night and meet someone you've never met before, then play a game of AoS that you'll both find fun without an hour-long conversation beforehand.
Yeah, exactly. You have to make your own rules, guidelines, and a whole series of agreements to play.
I appreciate that they're adding the points and such. But I have no idea why it took this long. It's very easy to do with such a simple system.
They also need to update all the scenarios. First or even second turn wins are unacceptable. Plenty of them favor one side with about a 99% chance to win.
I also don't understand the elimination of Warhammer Fantasy. Why could Fantasy models and that universe use this system? Why did they have to erase everything? (Fluff and lore wise). It ruins a world that people loved for 33 years now. It will always be Orks, Elves, Golbins, Empire, Dwarves, etc; for me. Not the new universe with the new names and everything.
Hopefully it will turn out well, but it hilarious to see it done this way. Compare that to the most recent editions of Malifaux or Warmachine, that did an update, or have it coming very soon. They updated everything in the system, added tons more content, from background stories to new models.
I hope we can have Warhammer Fantasy back! I liked that world, and the hundreds of games played in it.
Going by what some insiders have said, AoS is the brainchild of the new CEO Kevin Roundtree. I've no idea why he decided that nuking 33 years of history was necessary, but one can surmise that it's an ego-driven project to some degree.
You can also say that them removing everything and then renaming them is a (petty) way to trademark what was up to that point, generic faction names. You can't copyright dwarves, but you CAN trademark steamhead duardin and a whole bunch of other verbnoun names that don't make much sense but which you can claim is your own. Given how the whole Chapterhouse case went, I'm banking that this is the case.
Thing is, WHFB as an updated game and setting is dead and gone, but there's absolutely nothing stopping you from continuing to play in that world using either one of the older editions, 9th Age, or something like Kings of War. It's a bit freeing, really.